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From Reinhard Poetz <>
Subject Re: Releasing from trunk
Date Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:37:31 GMT
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


>> We need to get a 2.2 out; imho it is more important to have something
>> out after so many years than having a 115% bug free version.
> You are missing a point. It's not about a bug free version. It is about 
> a version which seen more than like 4 hours of testing after major surgery.
>> In addition, there is no guarantee that releasing a milestone will bring
>> us more users testing, more documentation etc. And I personally doubt
>> that people will start trying a milestone release.
> Counterpoint:
> They are not even trying, they are using it in production. It is a bit 
> different for 2.2 though: there were no "real" downloadable release yet, 

And maybe there will never be one. Don't know. There doesn't seem to be much 
energy in this community to provide it - especially if you use Maven 2 you don't 
need it.

> so there is really no easy way to download 2.2 and give it a spin on 
> existing 2.1 project.

That's not true. What's missing is a guide how to do it. Technically it 
shouldn't be too difficult.

> High entry point would hamper wider adoption of 2.2, not the label on 
> its release.
>> And what will be the exit criteria? When do we have enough confidence
>> (if it is really missing today) that we are stable enough for switching
>> from milestone to rc? We only have indicators and feelings. I think that
>> the current code base is stable and the work we are doing with is a
>> proof for this (for me).
> When there is a consensus in the community that version is ready for RC 
> or Final release. Given the responses so far, you already can see that 
> to reach consensus we'd have to:
>   * have some more testing done (not 4h or 1d as now),
>   * have unit tests working,
>   * have CC working and not failing over,

Continuum was stopped because I started to flatten the POM hierarchy in trunk. 
This will hopefully save me a lot of time during the release process.


Reinhard Pötz           Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach 

{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}


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