Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 93423 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2006 16:27:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Aug 2006 16:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 32477 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2006 16:27:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 32395 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2006 16:27:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 32384 invoked by uid 99); 21 Aug 2006 16:27:18 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:27:18 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [130.237.222.115] (HELO smtp.nada.kth.se) (130.237.222.115) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:27:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Info: The sender was authenticated as danielf using PLAIN at smtp.nada.kth.se Received: from [192.168.105.132] ([62.84.203.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.nada.kth.se (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7LGQtus021509 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:26:56 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <44E9DEC9.4050806@nada.kth.se> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:26:49 +0200 From: Daniel Fagerstrom User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Java 5 as minimum JDK requirement References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Andrew Stevens skrev: >> From: Sylvain Wallez ... >> All this discussion makes me sad, as it gives the impression the overall >> Cocoon developer community doesn't want to move forward and is >> frightened by moves that would cause some disruption among _some_ users. > > Not so much frightened as that they care, and not only want to move > forward but bring existing users forward with them. At least, that's > the impression I receive. It is not that simple either. The last few years we have lost a considerable number of very talented developers, (with Sylvain as a prominent example), because Cocoon have been moving to slowly for their tastes. Some of them have moved on to other projects where they think there is more action. /Daniel