Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 58859 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2006 15:13:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Jul 2006 15:13:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 73151 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2006 15:13:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 73013 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2006 15:13:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 72966 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jul 2006 15:13:35 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:13:35 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [203.59.1.198] (HELO mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au) (203.59.1.198) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:13:34 -0700 Received: from 203-206-245-195.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO [192.168.237.213]) ([203.206.245.195]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2006 23:13:10 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,204,1149436800"; d="scan'208"; a="802265057:sNHT46626660" Message-ID: <44AA8574.1080704@apache.org> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:12:52 +1000 From: Brett Porter User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maven Developers List CC: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RANT] This Maven thing is killing us.... References: <98e4f1cd0607040434k1c0f7ddeo8e9ddf0899c15b7e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <98e4f1cd0607040434k1c0f7ddeo8e9ddf0899c15b7e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 4/07/2006 9:34 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: > I agree that the whole maven2 situation is currently far less than > just acceptable ...but TBH I am not sure the maven team is (or was?) > really aware of all the problems we have. Not until you forwarded a message (and thanks for doing so). We don't really have the bandwidth to follow along with everyone that is converting builds... > > Maybe we can get a statement on the maven self-update and > unreliable-messed-up-repository situation. From what it sounds they > are working on it. So let's not work this out in our little cocoon > corner but let's hear what they have to say. I think we all recognise there are some issues, particularly with ibiblio dropping out consistently, and also issues with transitivity and versioning that have been raised on the dev@maven thread. I'm not sure what "messed up repository" issues you are having, but would like to hear about it. I know this stuff needs a good hard looking at, but I don't believe there is anything insurmountable here. - Brett -- Brett Porter Apache Maven - http://maven.apache.org/ Better Builds with Maven - http://library.mergere.com/