From dev-return-88204-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Mon Jul 03 09:02:25 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3996 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2006 09:02:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Jul 2006 09:02:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11790 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2006 09:02:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 11700 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2006 09:02:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 11689 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2006 09:02:21 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:02:21 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [146.109.240.232] (HELO irp0b.swx.com) (146.109.240.232) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:02:20 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO gate0b.unix.swx.ch) ([192.168.252.145]) by irp0b.swx.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2006 11:01:58 +0200 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,200,1149458400"; d="scan'208"; a="1361824:sNHT63322128" Received: from CIWMEXZSA0E.ex.ordersx.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate0b.unix.swx.ch (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6391wHR023187 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:01:58 +0200 (MEST) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: RE: [RANT] This Maven thing is killing us.... Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:01:57 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [RANT] This Maven thing is killing us.... thread-index: AcaefJ6xXMPq+tw4ScSuQOzDeDIoVQAAfw6Q From: "Nathaniel Alfred" To: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Why not keep the MVN repo in the Cocoon SVN repository like we used to do with the lib directory? That would allow close control of updates only by committers, and with a MVN file repo pointing to the user's Cocoon checkout, builds remain stable between SVN updates. Sure that requires again 100+ MB downloads from SVN. But that seems more stable than downloading 20 MB from SVN only and then 80+ MB from shakey MVN servers. Cheers, Alfred. -----Original Message----- From: Upayavira [mailto:uv@odoko.co.uk]=20 Sent: Montag, 3. Juli 2006 10:42 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RANT] This Maven thing is killing us.... Simone Gianni wrote: >=20 > Niclas Hedhman wrote: >=20 >> What happens *if* Mergere runs out of juice and flip the switch off? >> =20 >> > IIUC, maven repos are nothing more than HTTP servers, and SVN is > accessible thru HTTP, so we can create a folder named "repository" in > our svn repo, copy the folders of artifacts we need from ibiblio, and > have complete control over it. This is technically possible (and would > also solve maaaaaaaany other problems), but does not solve the legal > stuff maven repos solve about redistributing others work. A good idea, but I can't see any way in which infrastructure would allow this. That is because it would prevent any useful partitioning of resources. Maven is likely to become a resource hog, and could easily bring SVN down to its knees. Much better that it only be the MVN repo that goes down at such a time, and not our SVN repo too. Upayavira =20 =20 This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain = confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. = If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender urgently = and then immediately delete the message and any copies of it from your = system. Please also immediately destroy any hardcopies of the message. = You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, = or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. = The sender's company reserves the right to monitor all e-mail = communications through their networks. Any views expressed in this = message are those of the individual sender, except where the message = states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the = views of the sender's company.