Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56053 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2006 14:08:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2006 14:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 62591 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2006 14:08:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 62508 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2006 14:08:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 62494 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2006 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:08:12 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 66.51.199.81 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.51.199.81] (HELO mail5.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.81) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:08:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 25390 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2006 14:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (66.51.196.164) by mail5.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:07:50 -0700 Message-ID: <4490183E.6060206@dslextreme.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:07:58 -0700 From: Ralph Goers Reply-To: rgoers@apache.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [2.2] Release? References: <448E501B.80701@apache.org> <448F0936.8070304@apache.org> <448FEF80.1020800@apache.org> <448FF301.3010606@apache.org> <44900135.9010002@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <44900135.9010002@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Reinhard Poetz wrote: > Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > >> So this means we release some jars and the plugins? I think one >> important goal of this >> release should be to get feedback, so we should try to make the barrier >> to test 2.2 as low as possible while puttint as less effort as possible >> into it. I'm not sure if just releasing maven artifacts is enough here. > > Which kind of feedback do you want? > I think we need feedback from people that migrate their projects to > C22. I don't believe it makes sense to use C22 without a Maven 2 based > build. And, as I said in many previous mails, a distribution that can > be compared to a C21 release has its only purpose in being a demo > application, nothing more. I suspect that Carsten didn't understand what you were saying as this sentence, "I don't think that we should only provide Maven artifacts for our first release, nothing more." would lead one to believe that you do NOT want to ship anything regarding maven 2. > > So yes, I think that the named artifacts are enough for a first > release. Releasing forms, fop, javaflow, apples, batik, mail and > portal should be the next step so that more people can start to > experiment with a migration. During this phase we should fix their > samples too. > > Finally, we don't have to provide *one* release that contains all our > 50+ blocks anymore. Luckily we can release iterativly whenever > something is ready :-) I have no problem with this release as a first step, but I'd hesitate to even call it 2.2M1. OTOH, if I had an idea of what our subsequent milestones are this might make more sense to me. Ralph