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From Reinhard Poetz <>
Subject Re: [2.2] Configuration issues
Date Tue, 16 May 2006 09:42:13 GMT
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>>Do you want to solve this for our first release? If we add the "beta" postfix, 
>>adding some solution in the future isn't a problem. If you agree, I would like 
>>to postpone the discussion for the time after first beta release.
> I personally would like to have this in the first beta release, so we
> can see if this is the right solution and eventually change this in the
> next beta :)

I would like to have a first beta release in May. If we're fast enough, I don't 
have a problem. I just wanted to say that finding a solution isn't a must.

>>@ your question: You probably don't like my answer but OSGi already solves this 
>>kind of problem for us. Considering this I would only go for a very simple 
>>solution so that user _can_ provide their own configuration files which are used 
>>_instead_ of a block's configuration. For the usual needs (forms, template, 
>>mail, apples, pdf block) this should be enough. Don't know about the portal 
>>which is probably the use case you're thinking of.
> The portal is no problem as you have your own config file anyway. I'm
> more thinking of core or some blocks were you just add your own
> components or override some, like adding your own validator to cforms
> (which is no problem) or overriding the default email validator with
> your own one (which is a problem).
> How does OSGi solve this?

Since OSGi4 declarative services are supported. Think of Spring dependency 
injection but considering interface/implementation relations. You can use the 
OSGi configuratonAdmin service to change an injected component or a component's 

Additionally we have the possibility to redisgn e.g. forms and portal to use the 
OSGi whiteboard pattern[1]. Using it makes extending them very simple as it 
makes extensions very simple - you just have to provide a component that 
implements a particular interface and it is automatically added as reference to 
another component.


Reinhard Pötz           Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach 

{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}



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