Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51190 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 75854 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2006 20:23:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 75773 invoked by uid 500); 16 Mar 2006 20:23:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 75738 invoked by uid 99); 16 Mar 2006 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:23:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [130.237.222.115] (HELO smtp.nada.kth.se) (130.237.222.115) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:23:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Info: The sender was authenticated as danielf using PLAIN at smtp.nada.kth.se Received: from [85.226.151.171] (c-ab97e255.188-1-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.226.151.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.nada.kth.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GKMepa021665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:22:40 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <4419C940.3000403@nada.kth.se> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:23:28 +0100 From: Daniel Fagerstrom User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] a simple release plan References: <44183A19.5080908@apache.org> <441880E3.90303@nada.kth.se> <4419812E.5010404@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <4419812E.5010404@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N We are really innovating, as the cited article just contains some parts of the blocks idea. But the rest of the world is definitely catching up. If we focus on self doubt instead of development, we will be overrunned in this area as well. On the more positive side it is an advantage that the ideas are starting to get more attention, it will mean that we can share components and infrastructure with other communities. And that our timing might be right. /Daniel Sylvain Wallez skrev: ... > That would be bad and would mean that this community is no longer able > to innovate (provocative side note: are we really innovating? [1]). > > Sylvain > > [1] http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t64085.rhtml