Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 35695 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 10:22:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 10:22:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 39660 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 10:22:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38949 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 10:22:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38925 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2006 10:22:17 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:22:17 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [84.96.21.10] (HELO mail.anyware-tech.com) (84.96.21.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:22:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.anyware-tech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831ED33988 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:21:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.anyware-tech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trinity [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09944-02 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:21:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.27] (poukram.anyware [10.0.0.27]) by mail.anyware-tech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16B633984 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:21:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43BA5045.9060603@apache.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:21:57 +0100 From: Sylvain Wallez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling References: <43B9164F.5080201@apache.org> <43B95C08.8010602@dslextreme.com> <7557e99f0601020933xe119a58j588921935798ba63@mail.gmail.com> <43BA239A.5000200@apache.org> <43BA403D.7000701@apache.org> <43BA46C5.3020409@apache.org> <43BA4B75.7040908@apache.org> <43BA4D48.9090107@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <43BA4D48.9090107@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at anyware-tech.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Sorry, but I don't comment on this. Just one (final) question: are you -1 on the changes? > Yes, -1 because: - the mixed model will bring confusion, - having yet another Cocoon-specific way of handling components just makes the learning curve steeper, - the number of saved code lines doesn't justify it (how many manager.lookup() with all the keystrokes in these mails?), - we already have a Spring bridge that allows us to have *real* POJOs and much more. Honestly, I fail to understand why you don't want to use that Spring bridge that you wrote. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://bluxte.net http://www.anyware-tech.com Apache Software Foundation Member Research & Technology Director