Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 72609 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2005 22:43:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 2005 22:43:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 78052 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2005 22:43:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 77978 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2005 22:43:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 77958 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2005 22:43:26 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:43:26 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [207.162.210.50] (HELO wrinkledog.com) (207.162.210.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:43:25 -0800 Received: (qmail 8208 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 2005 22:46:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (ml@67.171.172.83) by wrinkledog.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2005 22:46:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <43961144.90709@odoko.co.uk> References: <43961144.90709@odoko.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Mark Lundquist Subject: Re: An entirely new beast Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:42:58 -0800 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Dec 6, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Upayavira wrote: > This, it is _not_ Cocoon 3.0. It is something else. > > Thus, I agree with Sylvain that it should have a new name, but think > that Raccoon is a bad one, as it is a play on Cocoon and could never > really be the project's real name. Imagine it, "powered by Apache=20 > Cocoon > Raccoon". Hmm. > > So, what I'd propose is we choose another name, and consider it to be = a > new subproject of Cocoon. A "new, exciting web development framework > from the people that brought you Apache Cocoon". > > And, the existing Cocoon carries on as long as people want and need = it. > Maybe 3.0 could still be the OSGi version. It may well still bring = huge > benefits to those using the current generation of Cocoon. > > Thoughts? If "it" is truly "something else", then I agree, it should have a new=20 name. If, as someone has suggested, "it" should turn out no longer to be=20 Java-based, then it would definitely be "something else", of course. =20 If it's still Java, then I can't tell yet (but maybe others can). If=20 it's like the difference between Cocoon 1 and Cocoon 2, then I think it=20= should still be "Cocoon". my $.02... :-) =97ml=97