Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37584 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2005 15:25:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Dec 2005 15:25:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 5820 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2005 12:35:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 5762 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2005 12:35:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 5735 invoked by uid 99); 7 Dec 2005 12:35:13 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 04:35:13 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [130.237.222.115] (HELO smtp.nada.kth.se) (130.237.222.115) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 04:35:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Info: The sender was authenticated as danielf using PLAIN at smtp.nada.kth.se Received: from [192.168.105.132] ([62.84.203.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.nada.kth.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7CYnQf010384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:34:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <4396D766.3080202@nada.kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:36:54 +0100 From: Daniel Fagerstrom User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: An entirely new beast References: <43961144.90709@odoko.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <43961144.90709@odoko.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Upayavira wrote: ... >So, what I'd propose is we choose another name, and consider it to be a >new subproject of Cocoon. A "new, exciting web development framework >from the people that brought you Apache Cocoon". > > Right, let us stay above the boring tech talk and focus on finding a new name that symbolizes in an accurate and yet engaging way our common, deeply felt need for moving beyond the current frustration, towards a new, different, bright and sexy future. >And, the existing Cocoon carries on as long as people want and need it. >Maybe 3.0 could still be the OSGi version. It may well still bring huge >benefits to those using the current generation of Cocoon. > > Great, why choose between focusing on 2.1.x, 2.2, our previous idea about 3.0 and the new vision. Lets just have it all. ... >(P.S. If people do agree, I'd say please refrain from providing possible >names at the moment. We can discuss that later. For now, let's see if >people agree with what I am suggesting). > > I agree, still I can't refrain from suggesting Cocoon Raba Hiff, http://asplund.arch.kth.se/~a96_osa/bonk/ptoday.html, as a hommage to a great predecesor. Let us together strive for maximizing the dev-list/cvs-list volume ratio. /Daniel [I'm deeply sorry, the voices in my head took control over my writing for a short while]