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From: Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
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To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Poll] We need to align on one point (was Re: [Vision] Knowing
 When We are Done)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:24:09 +0800
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On Wednesday 07 December 2005 23:56, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> > * No IDE support for JavaScript
>
> There's a JS plugin in Eclipse webtools and the amazing JSEclipse [4]
> that does autocompletion of function and argument names, plus tooltips
> and all that stuff.

Really??

How can it do code completion since the type is not known until runtime? In 
IDEA the completion only handles the DOM binding and some rare cases when the 
type can be derived.


As for JS being easier for non-Java peeps, my take is;
  1. To make JS useful the developers exposes useful object bindings.
  2. There is no "development environment" to contend with.

Align those and the "JS vs Java" argumentation becomes a different experience 
altogether.

Adding to that is, the times when I have seen "non-Java" peeps making anything 
useful on "JS-serverside" is when they already know JS well from client 
development. So, the take is a lot about profiling the target before making 
hard-core decisions that JS is better for flow than Java. I, for one, can't 
stand JS, due to "runtime hell".


I very much agree with everything Berin have said in this thread.


Cheers
Niclas