From dev-return-79011-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Tue Oct 04 07:51:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 65662 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 07:51:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Oct 2005 07:51:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 60442 invoked by uid 500); 4 Oct 2005 07:51:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 59899 invoked by uid 500); 4 Oct 2005 07:51:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 59883 invoked by uid 99); 4 Oct 2005 07:51:47 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:51:47 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [194.109.24.34] (HELO smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl) (194.109.24.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:51:49 -0700 Received: from [10.0.0.152] (daigeert.xs4all.nl [80.127.22.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j947pIZc076295 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:51:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Geert.Josten@daidalos.nl) Message-ID: <43423478.8050601@daidalos.nl> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:51:20 +0200 From: Geert Josten Organization: Daidalos BV User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] seven good reasons to close down users@cocoon.apache.org References: <93737231e39b88f914e63908d8b7b1bf@apache.org> <4341A9EF.70607@apache.org> <901abb6b857ffee22c5edfd2a0e1cf5e@apache.org> <200510041343.27986.niclas@hedhman.org> In-Reply-To: <200510041343.27986.niclas@hedhman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi, I'm mainly active on the users list, but being a full-time developer I am also monitoring the dev mailing list, just to keep my eyes open for new interesting features.. I do think that the feedback on the users list is rather low. Traffic on that list is usually much lower on the users list than on the dev list. So I would like to encourage either more dev people to monitor the users list, or to do some merging of some kind. Just as we speak, a message called "multiple xpaths" has been reposted on the dev list by someone who was not satisfied with the response on the users list. And more important, I am very sure that other members on the users list are interested in answers from dev people as well. Too bad you cannot cross-post between the two lists, that alone could have made things easier. > I am also against "user" list. It has a degenerating tone to it, and the fact > that many developers are not subscribed to user@ seems to promote that notion > further. > > My suggestion; > > 1. Rename the list "support@" or some similarly positive term. > > 2. Route all support@ mails to dev@ with a [SUPPORT] subject marker. That > keeps users who want to be protected from the RTs, wild dev discussions > and so on. +1 to this idea. Though, where should answers go? Cheers, Geert