From dev-return-78916-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Mon Oct 03 05:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6976 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2005 05:12:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 05:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 21037 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2005 05:12:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 20980 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2005 05:12:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 20968 invoked by uid 99); 3 Oct 2005 05:12:50 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:12:50 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [62.79.155.212] (HELO cow.netcompartner.com) (62.79.155.212) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:12:55 -0700 Received: from [219.94.116.107] (helo=clt-5-150.netcompartner.com) by cow.netcompartner.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.52) id 1EMIci-0003B1-22 for dev@cocoon.apache.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 07:12:25 +0200 From: Niclas Hedhman To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete? Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:12:06 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <433DB4B5.8070703@apache.org> <43402EB4.8070608@agssa.net> <43403EFB.7070602@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <43403EFB.7070602@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510031312.06920.niclas@hedhman.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Monday 03 October 2005 04:11, Ross Gardler wrote: > One other significant point to the many arguments as to why Cocoon is > *not* obsolete is that a rich client requires higher bandwidth. I agree with Antonio that the above statement is not a fact, but a circumstance around the particular application. 1. Behaviour mobility - the application behaviour is moved to the client. How often, how large, and so on. 2. Algorithms - how much data is processed on the server prior to be moved to the client? 3. Data Intensity - Is the application data intense and need a lot of DB read/writes? 4. Many other factors... Whatever the case, the server runtime platform will remain, but less 'typical' (HTML) than in the past. Cheers Niclas