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From Vadim Gritsenko <>
Subject Re: [RT] Rules for adding blocks and functionality?
Date Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:26:13 GMT
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
>>> We are chosen as committers as induviduals and not as representants 
>>> for our companies. From a community stand point I would say that it 
>>> is time to deprecate the SQLTransformer. As a representative for my 
>>> company I would rather say: no way, we have tons of code that depend 
>>> on it. It is a complicated question, but I don't think that the 
>>> answer is: I need it at my work so the rest of you should support it.
>> It is really hard to tell what is still useful and what not. Now, the
>> simple example of the SQLTransformer shows this: most of us seem to
>> agree that it's some legacy component and that flow etc. should be used
>> instead.

That is not correct, because of:

>> Now, think of a reporting tool done with Cocoon. This fetches some
>> hundreds of MB out of the database and just displays them. In this case
>> everything other than the SQLTransformer + Stylesheet is simply overkill
>>  (ok, XSP+ESQL is fine as well) and too memory/time consuming.

SQLTransformer is the only *recommended* choice to do reporting in Cocoon.

> Agree. The really ugly part of SQLTransformer is its ability to perform 
> insert/updates.

Yep, this part should be deprecated... Or at least discouraged.

> I'm using ESQL in a number of places for publication purposes, and many 
> people agree that ESQL is what keeps XSP alive. We have to build an 
> equivalent for CTemplates.

Never used ESQL myself, no comment :-)


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