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From Carsten Ziegeler <cziege...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete?
Date Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:44:12 GMT
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>>
>>Stefano,
>>
>>We are a large number of people who got inspired of your visions and 
>>have spent years on develop and implement them. Some have even built 
>>companies around Cocoon. Now everyone who want to start using Cocoon in 
>>a project, sell products based on it or services have to fight:
>>
>>"The founder of Cocoon find it obsolete."
> 
> 
> Read http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/94/ before 
> putting words in my mouth.
> 
The problem is imho that people tend to think in headlines - like the
one above. So whatever you tell in the following three hundred pages or
whatever is irrelevant to 99%. And this means the message most people
get is exactly how Daniel has put it.
Everywhere I go I'm faced with scared users asking me "What should we
use know as Cocoon is dead?" (I replaced obsolete with dead here to make
it more dramatically - also people are asking exactly this question).
And what should I answer them? "Oh, it wasn't meant this way, it's just
a wake up call." Now, you can imagine which questions are asked next.

So I agree with Daniel here that the whole "wake up call" (if it was
any) was not the best thing that could happen for Cocoon.

And we as a community should not start running around like headless
chickens crying out "I saw the light, we were so wrong. We must do
something! But what?". We all know what we should do next, we already
knew it before this mail and all we have to do is just continuing the
work - so in the end less discussions about what we should do and how
great everything could be and more doing.

Talking without doing is absolutely useless imho.

Carsten
-- 
Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, S&N AG
http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

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