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From Daniel Fagerstrom <>
Subject Re: Status of JXTemplate refactoring
Date Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:49:32 GMT
Leszek Gawron wrote:

> Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
>> No, I use faulty terminology, I didn't mean expression parser but 
>> rather string template parser (or whatever we should call it).
>> For those who don't remember the discussions (which seem to include me 
> and me :)
> <snip/>
> Thanks for such a good summary. One more thing though. Did we happen 
> to establish some pluggable expressions supporting convertors syntax?

The original thread is here and it is quite 
long so I have not had time to read all of it, but I don't think we 
established a syntax.

> I mean something like: 
> {wikify:jexl:myString?locale=a&amp;wikiRenderingEngineParam=2}
> (gosh that's ugly :))

Don't know if we should go that far. The main application for plugable 
coverters (within templates) is to convert a (simple) Java data type to 
a string representation in the current locale, so a typical example does 
not need any syntax at all:


in some cases one want to be able to chose among several different kinds 
of conversions, one might want to have a short and a long format for 
numbers e.g., the idea was to solve that with different classes of 
convertors Jonas Ekstedt proposed:


i.e. fragment syntax for URIs 
(, IMO that 
makes sense as:

"The fragment identifier component of a URI allows indirect 
identification of a secondary resource by reference to a primary 
resource and additional identifying information. The identified 
secondary resource may be some portion or subset of the primary 
resource, some view on representations of the primary resource, or some 
other resource defined or described by those representations."

A specific class of convertors gives a "view on representations of the 
primary resource".

I don't think we should start to have parameters to the converters and 
so on, if you need more "programming" in your templates you can write 
java code and call it from Jexl or JXPath. Convertors is intended to 
decrease the need of programming in templates and have a more 
declarative solution there typical conversion patterns allready are 

I'm also somewhat negative to have convertors that creates XML as some 
people have suggested, I can understand that it can be useful in some 
cases, but it makes the concern area for convertors more blurred and 
complicates the architecture.

Lets start simple with the convertors.


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