Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51248 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2005 16:36:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Aug 2005 16:36:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12766 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2005 16:36:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 12486 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2005 16:36:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 12471 invoked by uid 99); 31 Aug 2005 16:36:06 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:36:06 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [207.162.210.50] (HELO wrinkledog.com) (207.162.210.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:36:20 -0700 Received: (qmail 8024 invoked by uid 0); 31 Aug 2005 16:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (ml@67.171.172.83) by wrinkledog.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2005 16:36:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <4315D60B.6030504@reverycodes.com> References: <251B34B1-3E0B-45CC-B0A3-6CD947ADED42@betaversion.org> <4314907B.8050501@reverycodes.com> <43149AB7.3080509@dslextreme.com> <4314A036.80605@reverycodes.com> <4D0D0562-D410-4277-8E1E-D8E31361AF3E@betaversion.org> <4315CE90.3010406@dslextreme.com> <4315D60B.6030504@reverycodes.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--977411164 Message-Id: From: Mark Lundquist Subject: Re: 2.1.8 (Was: Re: JING Transformer...) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:36:00 -0700 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-4--977411164 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Ralph Goers wrote: >> My employer REQUIRES a stable forms framework, therefore I require a=20= >> Cocoon release with a stable forms framework. Ralph, your employer is retarded! Sorry, I couldn't help it :-)... > [vadim] Remember, you are here as a person, as yourself, and not a=20 > representative of the organization voicing organization's concerns and=20= > desires. You are here to help grow and maintain community as a whole, Ralph isn't trying to "represent" his employer in the Cocoon community.=20= He's just saying that speaking just for himself it is a PITA for his=20= job that CForms isn't stable yet, because that prevents him from using=20= it. I don't think Ralph's employer gives a rat's ass about the status=20= of CForms per se... all they care about is that no "unstable" stuff=20 gets used on their project, and if CForms is unstable that just means=20 he has to use something else (which is a PITA for him, but his company=20= doesn't care). Ralph, is that an accurate portrayal? > and community currently needs more often releases much more than a=20 > stable cforms block (which is just a bit of software, at the end of=20 > the day). +1 to that! Cheers, =97ml=97 --Apple-Mail-4--977411164 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: My employer REQUIRES a stable forms framework, therefore I require a Cocoon release with a stable forms framework. Ralph, your employer is retarded! Sorry, I couldn't help it :-)... [vadim] Remember, you are here as a person, as yourself, and not a representative of the organization voicing organization's concerns and desires. You are here to help grow and maintain community as a whole, Ralph isn't trying to "represent" his employer in the Cocoon community. He's just saying that speaking just for himself it is a PITA for his job that CForms isn't stable yet, because that prevents him from using it. I don't think Ralph's employer gives a rat's ass about the status of CForms per se... all they care about is that no "unstable" stuff gets used on their project, and if CForms is unstable that just means he has to use something else (which is a PITA for him, but his company doesn't care). Ralph, is that an accurate portrayal? and community currently needs more often releases much more than a stable cforms block (which is just a bit of software, at the end of the day). +1 to that! Cheers, =97ml=97 --Apple-Mail-4--977411164--