Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 92660 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Aug 2005 04:41:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 50466 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 50398 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 50385 invoked by uid 99); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:24 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:24 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of ralph.goers@dslextreme.com designates 66.51.199.94 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.51.199.94] (HELO mailgate1.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.94) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:43 -0700 Received: from mail8.dslextreme.com (unknown [192.168.7.96]) by mailgate1.dslextreme.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0958563051A for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4410 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.dslextreme.com) (192.168.7.96) by mail8.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:20 -0700 Received: (qmail 4407 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2005 04:41:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.dslextreme.com) (192.168.7.93) by mail8.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:20 -0700 Received: (qmail 16590 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2005 04:40:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (66.51.196.164) by mail5.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:40:56 -0700 Message-ID: <4302BFFC.8040900@dslextreme.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:32 -0700 From: Ralph Goers User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: CoWarp (was Re: svn commit: r232855...) References: <20050815185935.32798.qmail@minotaur.apache.org> <4300FE1D.2050606@dslextreme.com> <43018B96.9080904@apache.org> <4301AC67.8060001@apache.org> <4301B19D.90501@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <4301B19D.90501@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSLExtreme-MailGate-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DSLExtreme-MailGate: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: ralph.goers@dslextreme.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N The only concern I would have in bringing CoWarp into Cocoon (beside the name making me think it is an add-on for OS/2 :-) ) is that I'd want to evaluate it against using acegi as the "standard" authentication mechanism. Having said that, I have no familiarity with CoWarp and have only read some high level stuff about acegi, but from that reading it looks like a very robust framework. There was some discussion about it on the users list a few months ago http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=111755000500004&r=1&w=2 Ralph Carsten Ziegeler wrote: >If there is *high* community interest in hosting it at Apache I'm willing to >move. In fact, lack of a community was one of the main reasons in >creating Cowarp outside of Apache. Look at many of our blocks (incl. the >famous authentication block), most of them do not have a community. >They're a one man show (or sometimes a two man show). Apache is about >communities, and I think as long as the project does not have a real >community it should not be at Apache. >So, my suggestion is, if there are people interested in it, speak up, >lets create a comunity outside at Apache first and then move it. > >And I think currently we have way too many blocks and adding another one >makes Cocoon even complexer. It seems everyone who has a good idea just >adds another block (with no or minimal community). Just adding a jar >dependency is much simpler from the complexity point of view. > >Another advantage is that I can use Maven for building Cowarp - >something our build system does not provide. But for me using Maven is >another prerequisite :) > >In the end, yes, I'm willing to move if this creates a community here. > >Carsten > >