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From Sylvain Wallez <>
Subject Re: More Ajax in Cocoon (was Re: [FYI] followers :-))
Date Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:58:11 GMT
Ugo Cei wrote:

> Il giorno 19/ago/05, alle 14:25, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto:
>>> Yeah, but their new "ajaxified" XForms engine looks cool.
>> What do you find particularily cool? Except the eye-candy when focus 
>> enters a list, I wasn't impressed. I was also surprised to see that 
>> almost every user action triggers a roundtrip to the server (the 
>> "Loading" spinning wheel), which puts a useless load on the server, 
>> especially on large forms where the user may tab quickly to navigate 
>> inputs.
> What I find interesting is being able to proocess XForms on the client 
> without plugins, applets or other proprietary extensions. Like it or 
> not, XForms is becoming more popular and having XForms support in 
> Cocoon means that fewer people will look somewhere else when they 
> learn that Cocoon has a proprietary forms framework, even if it 
> currently is the best around.

Ah ok, I thought it was about the feature showcased in the demos.

> Being enthusiast about Ajax, I think the best way to support XForms in 
> a browser is to use that (or the next version of Firefox, when it will 
> have native support for XForms/SVG/etc.). Since the implementation in 
> OPS is Open Source (AFAIK), it might be worthwhile to take a look at it.

There's also Chiba which has Cocoon integration. I don't know its status 
though. Something that may be worth investigating also is a 
XForms->CForms translator. Could this be a bunch of XSLs?

> Of course, this means having another 12 hours extra per day, in 
> addition to the 36 we all already need. ;-)

I personally would like 42 hours a day (H2G2 just went out in theaters 
here) :-)


Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director

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