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From Sylvain Wallez <>
Subject Re: Considering xdoc obsolete
Date Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:59:27 GMT
Ross Gardler wrote:

> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Now that thanks to Steven we have a nice Cocoon-based ASF-hosted CMS, 
>> we have to (and want to) use it!
>> AFAIU by reading the recent discussions, a difficult point is the 
>> xdoc format used by Cocoon's internal publishing system.
>> So what about considering xdoc obsolete, remove all the publishing 
>> stuff in src/documentation and migrate everything to xhtml which is 
>> understood both by Forrest and Daisy?
> Version 0.8 of Forrest will use a subset of XHTML2 as its internal 
> format. Of course, Forrest will accept almost any format as input, so 
> you can (theoretically) use anything you want as your source format.
> DaisyHTML is not XHTML. It is a limited set of XHTML elements. By 
> limited I mean in available elements, not in utility. It removes all 
> the "nasty" HTML stuff (mostly presentation related). The significance 
> of this is that it is not wise to use an XHTML editor to edit Daisy 
> docs offline, some elements will not translate into DaisyHTML.
> Nevertheless, for 98% of documents DaisyHTML is great, even edited 
> offline with an XHTML editor. For the remaining 2% you can use true XHTML.

That's what I meant. Considering the elements that exist in xdoc 
(version 1.0 is used in Cocoon), my impression is that Daisy's XHTML 
subset can handle all what we have in xdoc today.

>> That way, we can concentrate on using the cool features of these 
>> modern tools without being always hindered by the legacy structure.
> +1 to the concept as long as you are aware Daisy does not use XHTML. 
> The +1 part is I am continuing to work on the Daisy plugin for Forrest.



Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies  
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director

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