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From Steven Noels <>
Subject Re: [Docs] Refactoring, porting Wiki content, and evaluating Daisy
Date Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:06 GMT
On 10 Jun 2005, at 04:07, Mark Leicester wrote:

>     * Newly created pages are invisible until they are published (by 
> someone with publishing rights). It's a little like flying blind. I 
> had to remember document IDs in order to cross-link (unpublished pages 
> don't show up in the link chooser). I couldn't review my newly created 
> pages unless I edited them (if I view a newly created page I just see 
> "This document is not yet published.").

You can access unpublished versions from the "Versions" overview.


>     * I had to edit the navigation structure to see my changes. Again, 
> adding document IDs/labels to this structure had to be done from 
> memory.

So I guess unpublished documents should also be listed when doing 
"insert by query".

>     * Switching between the navigation structure editor and the page 
> editor was tedious. I understand the power of this separation, but 
> from a usability point of view it would be nice to make the management 
> of a page's location possible from the page itself.

Yes - though it's very hard to make people believe that THERE'S NO 
HIERARCHY IN THE REPOSITORY when content can be inserted from a 

> I think it's going to prove difficult for editors to make significant 
> structural changes due to this lack of visibility and immediate 
> feedback. Incidentally, despite not having publish permissions, I can 
> still see a checkbox saying "Publish changes immediately" when I edit 
> a page.

Useful feedback!

Steven Noels                  
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