Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 62355 invoked from network); 18 May 2005 15:03:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 May 2005 15:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 67805 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2005 14:48:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 67681 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2005 14:48:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 67664 invoked by uid 99); 18 May 2005 14:48:13 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from um0007.unimaas.nl (HELO um0007.unimaas.nl) (137.120.1.7) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:48:12 -0700 Received: by um0007.unimaas.nl (Postfix, from userid 3003) id 5AA55C03A; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:47:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from um-mail0138.unimaas.nl (um-mail0138.unimaas.nl [137.120.1.138]) by um0007.unimaas.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C3AC030 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:47:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from um-mail0136.unimaas.nl ([137.120.1.136]) by um-mail0138.unimaas.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 18 May 2005 16:47:44 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Mailing list statistics Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:47:52 +0200 Message-ID: <329A68716B57D54E8D39FD3F8A4A84DF01AAF5E4@um-mail0136.unimaas.nl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mailing list statistics Thread-Index: AcVbtE54repbSfMqRCihRNYubANBQAAAhibQ From: "Linden H van der (MI)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2005 14:47:44.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CC22150:01C55BB8] X-UM-Spam-DCC: CollegeOfNewCaledonia: um0007 1189; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-UM-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on um0007.unimaas.nl X-UM-Spam-Level: X-UM-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > I disagree. Cocoon has been very open in giving committership in the=20 > past and will continue to be. But the fact is that committers know=20 True. With "small group" I only mean that the number of committers is very small, compared to the total number of users on the lists. This is just a fact, without any values attached.=20 The advantage of such a small group, and in this community I know for a fact that most of them know each other personally, is that they know what they can expect from each other and how to handle "problems" (ranging from misunderstandings to complete messes in the committed code). Knowing who's who further helps in this. OTOH If committership is handed out too easily it is much easier to modify Cocoon to serve personal purposes rather than try to add something that can be valuable/useful for the community. > Is the humble attitude that makes us strong as a community. When the qualitity of the product/software is more important than the individual contribution, I suppose it's a healthy attitude, call it humble or something else. Bye, Helma