From dev-return-73836-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Tue May 03 15:54:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 87270 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 15:54:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 May 2005 15:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 96638 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2005 15:09:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 96532 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2005 15:09:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 96366 invoked by uid 99); 3 May 2005 15:09:23 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mailgate1.dslextreme.com (HELO mailgate1.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.94) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:09:22 -0700 Received: from mail5.dslextreme.com (unknown [192.168.7.93]) by mailgate1.dslextreme.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F31D3630079 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12112 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 15:07:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO belagio) (66.51.196.164) by mail5.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:07:29 -0700 Message-ID: <427793AE.6010500@dslextreme.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:07:26 -0700 From: Ralph Goers User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags References: <4276A132.1050605@anyware-tech.com> <4276A30E.9000401@nada.kth.se> <4276B78B.7050702@dslextreme.com> <42777441.5000803@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <42777441.5000803@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSLExtreme-MailGate-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DSLExtreme-MailGate: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: ralph.goers@dslextreme.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sylvain Wallez wrote: > Ralph Goers wrote: > >> Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email >> from Larry Rosen to the Apache Legal list that seems to say that the >> Cocoon source files should not have the Apache copyright in them, but >> instead have the copyright of the committers who made the >> contibution. Obviously, this is in direct contrast to what we are >> doing and frankly, I think its nuts. >> While this doesn't have a lot to do with the @author tags, per se, it >> does seem to indicate that the files should have a "record of >> ownership". > > Oh my... do we have to add a copyright notice for every one-line patch > send by people? > > I see a difference in Larry's post between original work that > pre-existed outside the ASF and is later contributed to the ASF, and > work that was developped directly for the ASF. So this non-ASF > copyright could be applicable to donations, but not to our collective > everyday work on the code base. Well, that may be true, but not being a lawyer I really don't know. As I read it I understood Larry basically saying, "We provide the legal guidance, but we can't make you do anything". However, I guess I'd like somebody to clarify this to the point that we really understand what we should be doing. Ralph