Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 49232 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 14:12:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 14:12:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9441 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 14:12:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 9364 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 14:12:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 9345 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2005 14:12:35 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from smtp08.web.de (HELO smtp08.web.de) (217.72.192.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:12:33 -0800 Received: from [217.227.198.78] (helo=[217.227.198.78]) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.104 #268) id 1DH0PB-0007XX-00 for dev@cocoon.apache.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:12:17 +0200 Message-ID: <424C054E.2070200@web.de> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:12:30 +0200 From: Marco Rolappe Reply-To: m_rolappe@web.de User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [poll] Seeking eclipse plugin development skills for an opensource Cocoon IDE References: <424AD040.10808@apache.org> <424BA6DA.6030800@web.de> <424BF08D.20507@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <424BF08D.20507@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: m_rolappe@web.de X-Sender: m_rolappe@web.de X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sylvain Wallez schrieb: > Marco Rolappe wrote: > >> Sylvain Wallez schrieb: >> >>> That's why I'm sending this poll to the whole user and developper >>> community: >>> - do you or your company have Eclipse plugin development skills? >> >> minimal. but it would be a good opportunity to enhance them ;-) > > Sure, but starting an Eclipse IDE with only newbies isn't the easiest > route :-) probably not ;-) but AFAIR the concepts behind the plugin architecture are not that hard to grasp. I fiddled around with several plugins and also dug a little into sunbow and there have been no big problems along the way. anyway, if there's going to be a sandbox I'll come there and play ;-) > Anyway all contributions would of course be very welcome! > >>> - if some opensource project is setup to develop a Cocoon IDE, would >>> you like to join and invest time and effort? >> >> sure. I'm also thinking of tools not dependent on an IDE but usable >> from within Cocoon (via web frontend). > > A good Cocoon IDE must have a runtime part to allow things like > debugging, monitoring or profiling. This runtime part can be designed so > that some features can be equally used with a GUI front-end in the IDE > and a web front-end. This is something that must be considered right > from the start. a list for collecting ideas/use cases would be useful. maybe such a thing already lives somewhere in wiki land? influenced by some mail archive posts, the first thing coming to my mind besides those you mentioned is a visual build (configuration) tool. leEgg.breed();