Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 38043 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2005 19:22:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Feb 2005 19:22:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 59033 invoked by uid 500); 24 Feb 2005 19:22:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 58513 invoked by uid 500); 24 Feb 2005 19:22:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 58500 invoked by uid 99); 24 Feb 2005 19:22:07 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from 66.111.0.243.nyinternet.net (HELO confixx.bestiole.ch) (66.111.0.243) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:22:06 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.36] (lsn-boi-catv-c126-p138.vtx.ch [212.147.126.138]) by confixx.bestiole.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j1OJLxH22154 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:21:59 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: <421CA8E5.2060508@apache.org> <421DE4C2.5030706@nada.kth.se> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--30783634; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: From: Bertrand Delacretaz Subject: Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:21:58 +0100 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-3--30783634 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 24 f=E9vr. 05, =E0 16:18, Paul Russell a =E9crit : > ...my aim was > to get these ideas out there, and let people think about them. It > would seem I didn't present them in a very palatable way... I can't speak for others, but my mailbox right now shows that I'm 100=20 messages behind cocoon-dev... So unfortunately my brain's bandwidth is not enough currently to digest=20= all your ideas at once, and I assume it's the same for many others=20 here. This might partially explain the lack of enthusiasm for your=20 ideas right now, but if you're able to distill your vision through=20 small steps here and there it might certainly help. Please don't lose the vision even if it is not implementable right now. -Bertrand --Apple-Mail-3--30783634 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGRTCCAv4w ggJnoAMCAQICAw0p3DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDQxMDA0MTQyMzU0WhcNMDUxMDA0MTQyMzU0WjBtMRMwEQYDVQQE EwpEZWxhY3JldGF6MREwDwYDVQQqEwhCZXJ0cmFuZDEcMBoGA1UEAxMTQmVydHJhbmQgRGVsYWNy ZXRhejElMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYWYmRlbGFjcmV0YXpAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBALXTKyJRGv/islEqVhG+iE8FSGe+4ikts9rca6OUPD4CJ+vYcXS5 arpv87lSoi0cyC8QkjB6MzsXzsraQjyO3EOeFOcNWN1XFe0Qc2uqVBSdYM6LtaSs4A1OYSweKKFK iNscMmlsIIKXvZ8xb4QmbZZSkklh5tWdJh+aNNV0m++NEUXRsqRffz6eHRmf0RjYmwxBig3KpzmH dPAcGTtDcI9O7p2OpQ7zPFAt9n4tMPx6makpU97HeGKqvWPIaaprQa/4nLhTcWDaZ1AHyFYNhzru gyRI0SDyp6OijuUZKXsaESJWEEySke18l6aZbsflzXpoCMTS9ce93fJ0uBFax/kCAwEAAaMzMDEw IQYDVR0RBBowGIEWYmRlbGFjcmV0YXpAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBBAUAA4GBAEBia6WrujKxJoVkme3aFszr/WmH4x+mIj+AmrAVG2tGB+RO0yCK/aal3wLzMBYn O6zr7TPW2PqOUmMGeP7Pgr5KSMn4rlfM+Hdfd/IvqCpHuWcqq/VAto47XF2cZyGNw32EdGx8IeCe 6BFaoRh6yJdS3GkOnbqSNCVTih/PdRlxMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB 0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3du MRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2 aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJ KoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoX DTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5n IChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENB MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3 PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIG A1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29t L1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAc MRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswN o2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSe JVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/ XV9lTzGCAucwggLjAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0 aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5n IENBAgMNKdwwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAVMwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQUxDxcNMDUwMjI0MTkyMTU5WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUMAR9KEuvpHcgcF6Nf8CFBgma NvIweAYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMWswaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vp bmcgQ0ECAw0p3DB6BgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzFroGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMNKdwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAU+ry6gISFjPIVPiQ9haAW6it V2HHa/eh4Q96/hqDZp+mQ8C+62qTj0CUua2JH6BoCrcc4YSDGy/TLTQ+2txgFLGYFdWn5CJqVlP6 k6di5lLpRWkERiEcB4Y12tBkEGnxRgP/L5iIpfVLyBOaS051I4t1cGNECYgDHk0rSQMEn9MjAoPS eCq1SyxoS45DbKcdiwTYJtK8u988fONnuegaQvCN6d2IxBBpskMznxDoamfFxpY2uX8PsRL+Ff1w 17f94kjMlkMDajsVRA98PjMx0lcDL9a4iwL7NAjF2JBerCPEpOBF2Z05dY29Gx0ptH1D8OkPbJc9 f5RGVuXjhTA2JAAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail-3--30783634--