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From Reinhard Poetz <>
Subject Re: [RT] Moving blocks out of the core
Date Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:23:27 GMT
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
>> Sometimes I think that "real blocks"
>>  [...] is another instance of something that is becoming an anti-pattern:
>>  "stating the solution before stating the problem".
> This is true. I agree completely with that, in fact, the observation 
> came after deep and long thinking sbout exactly how the real block 
> design was so complete yet so far from current needs that nobody (not 
> even myself) was willing to sit down and spend the time/effort to 
> implement it.
> Real blocks are still very avalonish in that sense: they were designed 
> for elegance rather than optimization of effort.

Don't forget it needs both: elegance and optimization. Looking at Cocoon 
competitors (I don't want to mention names) that were designed for optimization 
of effort should show what I mean :-)

> that's why I've tried to vote +1 to any incremental change, even if 
> suboptimal, instead of beating the "thou shall have real block" dead horse.
> But sometimes I can't help to think about how much cooler coocon would 
> be with them ;-)

you are sooooooo right ... :-)

Reinhard Pötz           Independant Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach 

{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}


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