Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82482 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2004 08:52:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Dec 2004 08:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25972 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2004 08:52:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 25599 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2004 08:52:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 25577 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2004 08:52:18 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from viefep12-int.chello.at (HELO viefep12-int.chello.at) (213.46.255.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:52:16 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.31] (really [62.178.239.20]) by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.03.05 201-2131-111-107-20040910) with ESMTP id <20041211085209.BTSC10115.viefep12-int.chello.at@[192.168.1.31]>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:52:09 +0100 Message-ID: <41BAB533.3080500@apache.org> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:52:03 +0100 From: Reinhard Poetz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org, Christopher Oliver Subject: Re: JXTemplateGenerator References: <41BA37E0.1050108@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <41BA37E0.1050108@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Christopher Oliver wrote: > "General consensus" has turned out to be incorrect on many occasions. > What I see is that some people, such as Stefano, are looking to build a > better templating system while others are contemplating what appears to > be pointless refactoring. As I prepare a presentation on web controller I read the thread where Ovidiu presented his continuations idea. General consensus was something like Struts did (and still does ;-) and it took a while until people began to understand what the power is. And look where we are today ... :-) Anyway, just a sidenote. My question is: Chris, you talked to Stefano IRL and read at least some of the mails of the templating discussion. What is your understanding where "next generation templating" should head to? -- Reinhard