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From: Steven Noels <stevenn@outerthought.org>
Subject: Re: [ANN] Daisy 1.1 release
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On 23 Nov 2004, at 20:52, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:

> Some people asked for a comparison when Daisy 1.0 was released but 
> this page is
> still empty:
> http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon-lenya/Comparisons

Heh. I hate product comparisons with a passion, just as I hate filling 
out endless forms on 
http://tools.hartman-communicatie.nl/overzicht.html, 
http://cmsmatrix.org/ and perhaps some more. The reason I hate them is 
that proper comparisons are very hard to do, and most likely will be 
completely dependent on what you want to achieve. Also, these forms 
typically get filled in with a "marketing attitude" - which means truth 
is sometimes twisted, and future ambitions are being stated as if they 
are reality.

With both projects being open source and readily available, and if 
someone is serious about a CMS project, I think people should go 
through the burden of installing one system on Day 1, another system on 
Day 2, and use Day 3 to decide what project fits best with their 
requirements. If you can't bare spending two days doing a proper 
assessment of systems against your needs, no way you need to opt for an 
open source CMS.

</Steven>
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