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From Reinhard Poetz <>
Subject Re: Multiple forms on one page
Date Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:31:40 GMT
Glen Ezkovich wrote:
> Some how I missed this yesterday when I sent my post and consequently 
> sent garbage. I apologize for the noise.
> On Nov 22, 2004, at 4:12 AM, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>> Upayavira wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I need to put two forms onto one page.
>>> Scenario: a homepage showing a selection of 'products', displayed as 
>>> a repeater on a form, and a login form.
>>> These need to be separate HTML forms, so that typing into a box and 
>>> pressing enter submits the relevant form.
>>> Is there a way to do this without having to go all the way and 
>>> aggregate two completely separate pipelines? Having to do the this 
>>> for just one page would be a real pain.
>>> Thanks for any ideas.
>> AFAIK this is an open issue for cForms. Therefore I move it over to 
>> dev-list.
>> I think one problem is our flowscript API:
> This is exactly what I was thinking.
>>  var form = new Form("...");
>>"mypipeline", bizdata);
>> This way you can only show one form a page. Maybe we can do somethink 
>> like
>>  var multiform = new Multiform({form1 : form1, form2 : form2);
>>"myMultiformPipeline", bizdata);
> I think where we see thing differently is that I would rather have the 
> forms as just part of a page, i.e. 
> cocoon.sendFormPage("formTemplate.xml", {"bizdata": bizdata}, 
> {"formURI1", "formURI2", ..., "formURIn"})

This wouldn't work because this way you would have to care of validation and 
"continuation management" in every controller using forms.

> Actually, I would like it better if the forms can just be referenced in 
> the template and sendFormPage returns an array of Forms. I'm not sure 
> what type of performance hit this might cause.
>> The next step would have to be an enhancement of the forms transformer 
>> because it would have to render more than one form. This would 
>> probably require a unique id in the forms template. This id needs to 
>> be the same as the id used in "new Multiform(...)".
> One of the ideas I've been tossing about is the notion of named forms. 
> Now when I say named forms I don't necessarily mean an arbitrary name, 
> since it seems obvious that names should be unique. It could simply be 
> the URI of the form; forms/myForm.xml. This, I think would work for your 
> unique ID as well.
> In a recent proof of concept project not only did we needed multiple 
> forms per page but we discovered that we had many forms that shared 
> groups of information such as address information. It would have been 
> nice to be able to create the form definition and the form template just 
> once and just include it in other forms that needed to display or 
> collect that information. (I know it is possible but not straightforward)
> As an example of what I have in mind is something along the lines of the 
> following:
>     In wholeForm.xml:
>     <fd:form>
>         <fd:widgets>
>             <fd:include name="name" submit="false"/>
>             <fd:include name="address" submit="true"/>
>             <fd:include name="someOtherStuff" submit="action" 
> action-command="doThis" on-action="whatever"/>
>             <fd:submit id="alldone" action-command="..." validate="true">
>                 <fd:label>Submit</fd:label>
>                 <fd:help>...</fd:help>
>                   <fd:hint>...</fd:hint>
>                  <fd:on-action>
>                         ...
>                   </fd:on-action>
>         </fd:widgets>
>     </fd:form>
> And in wholeFormTemplate.xml
>     <ft:form-template action="#{$continuation/id}.continue" method="POST">
>         <ft:include name="name"/>
>         <ft:include name="address"/>
>         <ft:include name="someOtherStuff"/>
>         <ft:widget id="alldone"/>
>     </ft:form-template>
> My thinking at the time was that named forms would solve both multiple 
> forms per page and shared form elements. I now see the two issues are 
> independent but named forms would make the use of multi-form pages 
> easier by simply allowing passing the form names to the showFormPage 
> function.

I don't understand the include syntax. what does it include?

> As I mentioned above, form names could be just their URI, but they could 
> also be specified in the sitemap allowing for simple form replacement. 
> While I realize this is a huge undertaking since it touches many pieces, 
> it does not have to break backwards compatibility.
> If the project proceeds I will scratch this itch. If it doesn't I may 
> have a lot of time on my hands ;-0 and a lot of nervous scratching might 
> take place anyway.
> Again, any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.


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