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From Leszek Gawron <>
Subject Re: [RT] Attribute Rendering and CForms Convertors
Date Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:33:10 GMT
Ralph Goers wrote:

<snip>agree to all</snip>

> Maybe this is just a different way to say the same thing.  In our 
> environment we designed and developed the business entities first 
> independent of any view.  We then determined what DTOs needed to be 
> transfered to the presentation tier based upon the data the use cases 
> would need, sharing DTOs where that is possible.  Then the Business 
> Delegates/Session Facades were implemented to return those DTOs.  At the 
> same time the View was implemented using mock DTOs. Finally the two 
> tiers were tied together.
There is one big difference when using Hibernate(d) model: You do not 
have to use DTOs so it's easier to scale the system but harder to 
enhance particular views with some specially rendered data.

I try to avoid DTO pattern as much as I can.

> Looks like we all agree on this.

Leszek Gawron                            
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