Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 27621 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 14:27:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 14:27:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27737 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2004 14:27:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 27602 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2004 14:27:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 27529 invoked by uid 99); 24 Oct 2004 14:27:41 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [65.196.130.133] (HELO wahoo.pace2020.com) (65.196.130.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:27:40 -0700 Received: from fotap.org ([63.211.45.38] helo=[192.168.42.4]) by wahoo.pace2020.com with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CLjLN-0001kQ-00 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:27:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Image-Url: http://fotap.org/~osi/mail/peter.royal@pobox.com From: peter royal Subject: Re: [VOTE] Remove excalibur instrumentation support from 2.2 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:27:35 -0400 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Oct 24, 2004, at 9:45 AM, Giacomo Pati wrote: >> In the end when we think of real blocks we need another solution >> anyways - >> this could be JMX or something else, but it's most likely that it >> won't be > > IIRC JMX isn't able to visualize behaviour over time (i.e. concurrent > useage of a component over time) as graphs. that's my understanding also. JMX could be used as an API to read instruments, but its not an API that would allow for easy instrumentation of the code. >> So, please cast your votes on removing the support starting with 2.2: -0 -pete