Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 86060 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2004 20:25:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2004 20:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 92561 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2004 20:25:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 92490 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2004 20:25:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 92477 invoked by uid 99); 20 Oct 2004 20:25:42 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [62.140.213.123] (HELO pulse.betaversion.org) (62.140.213.123) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:25:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 10249 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2004 20:25:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.72.102?) (pier@62.140.203.188) by pulse.betaversion.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2004 20:25:38 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) To: dev@cocoon.apache.org In-Reply-To: <46E74B5F-227E-11D9-A91D-000A95984AEA@betaversion.org> Message-Id: <35311748-22D6-11D9-BEA8-000A95984AEA@betaversion.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--262344741; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" From: Pier Fumagalli Subject: Re: FilesystemStore broken??? Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:25:39 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-2--262344741 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 20 Oct 2004, at 12:14, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Pier Fumagalli wrote: > >> >> So, at the end of the day, who is ALSO using the persistent >> store? Only the cache? I'm getting lost in components, my >> greps are not powerful enough (anymore) :-( >> > Only some others to cache prepared things, like the portal, > batik or I think XSP as well. > Perhaps it's only me but I think we (or I?) somehow confused > the difference between a store and a cache. Imho a cache > caches :) something for improved performance, but the system > will still work the same way (only slower) if the cache > gets lost (is cleared). > But a store stores :) things, if they somehow got lost, > the system is missing some information. > So perhaps it's time to do this part for 2.2 right as well, > skip the excalibur store and do it better? AH! Now we're making sense... So, the problem I have with the "store" for now is that we have a friggin' store janitor who comes in at intervals and wipes out the whole thing... So, actually, in the store I can't be really sure of what's being "stored" for real, because it might be cleaned out... Which makes me think that actually the store is more of a cache, than a _real_ store... 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