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From Ugo Cei <>
Subject Re: [RT] Some notes about the "Real Blocks" issue
Date Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:35:06 GMT
Il giorno 14/ott/04, alle 04:20, Niclas Hedhman ha scritto:

> A Cocoon Pojo will not be easier to use outside the Cocoon
> environment than today's set of components are, since there are so 
> many other
> things that needs to happen.

Just to clarify: _no_one_ is thinking about using Cocoon components 
outside Cocoon. But if your components have no dependencies on the 
container, you get two things:

1. You can move them to a different container more easily, assuming the 
new container provides the same set of basic services as the old. This 
is not the case today.
2. Testability.

As for your other points, which are certainly worth considering, I'm 
not replying to them since I don't want to start a war of religion of 
the kind "my container is better than yours". I'll just point out that 
at the Hackathon we reached some kind of consensus between people who 
are prepared to do some work or that have already done some work (see 
the kernel and butterfly attempts). Now it's time to JFDI (Just Fscking 
Do it).


Ugo Cei -

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