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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [RT] Some notes about the "Real Blocks" issue
Date Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:40:16 GMT
Hunsberger, Peter wrote:

 > Maybe I'm
> just too optimistic in believing there should be container
> implementations mature enough for Cocoon to depend on?

What *really* bothers me about this thread is the fact that very few 
seem to realize that "maturity" for dependencies means "stability of the 
contract and stability of the community".

Avalon is dead.

Excalibur is asleep.

Spring is outside the ASF.

Geronimo is still incubating.

Can you see the pattern?

History should teach people not to repeat the same mistakes again... but 
hey, what do I know, I've only been around here for 7 years.


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