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From Leszek Gawron <>
Subject Re: why JXTG sucks? was: FreeMarker integration
Date Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:12:35 GMT
Ugo Cei wrote:

> Il giorno 10/ago/04, alle 11:13, Leszek Gawron ha scritto:
>> 1. you cannot parse string from your model as xml, had do use session
>>    hacks to do that ( put flowscript function into session, use it via
>>    macro in jxtg):
> I don't think it's the view's responsibility to parse XML. Parse it in 
> the flowscript and pass the resulting DOM to the view. You can do that 
> in bizData without using the session at all.
>> 2. same for wiki syntax
> Same as above.
> WRT your other points, I agree that the JXTG is somewhat limiited and 
> clumsy, but don't try to have it do more than what it should, otherwise 
> you're back to  XSP.
>     Ugo
I see this functionality on the same level as : jx:formatDate, 

I know you are using hibernate in your projects. Assume you have lazily 
loaded, big data model passed to your view. some of the properties in 
model are strings. At view level, when you traverse your collections you 
want pretty print some of your model properties instead of doing only 
${}. The property might be at any level of your data 
model. Moreover - if you have lazy loading you can provide your every 
view with the same huuuge data model so the view decides which part to 
use and present.

 From this point of view the pretty printer is a part of templating 
language. Controller should not know nothing about that as this is a 
part of view rendering. If you wanted to pretty print your properties in 
flowscript you would have to provide:
  a) a wrapper for you entity so it can pretty print your data. This 
will break your lazy loading and break the whole 
one-big-model-multi-views idea

  b) insert pretty printing code in your entity itself. This forces code 
duplication and breaks separation of concerns. I do not want my entities 
  expose a dependency to some kind of wiki parsing library, xml 
formatting library, number formatting library, some-very-sophisticated 

Leszek Gawron                            

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