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From Jean-Claude Moissinac <>
Subject Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)
Date Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:39:25 GMT
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has 
>>> nothing to do with the architecture.
>> It does in the sense that you can't prove that you haven't "broken" it.
> Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This 
> is an open source project and a do-ocracy: if you think tests are 
> important, write them and contribute them. We never said "no, go away 
> with your stupid tests".
> My point is not if tests are good or bad, my point is tests and 
> architectural decisions are two orthogonal concerns and should be kept 
> separate.
I think that, from a date, nothing was comited in Batik without a linked 
After a hard to decide process, it was accepted as a very effective 


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