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From "Carsten Ziegeler" <>
Subject RE: [RT] Logging in Cocoon
Date Fri, 28 May 2004 10:41:38 GMT
Unico Hommes wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler <cziegeler <at>> writes:
> > So, my suggestion is to:
> > - deprecate the use of LogKit
> -0.5
> I have been a great fan of LogKit since I first started using 
> it through Cocoon.
> Its slim feature set attains the admirable goal of keeping 
> things simple, yet it's powerful enough for most of Cocoon's 
> usage scenarios. I think it is more intuitive to configure 
> than is Log4j. It's very well designed and it's specifically 
> designed with the kind of IoC log enabling in mind that we 
> will continue to use in the future.
> I understand the Avalon community argument and it is good to 
> have alternative logging solutions in Cocoon but I feel bad 
> about throwing out something I consider to be the best fit 
> logging package for Cocoon ATM. BTW I am not following Avalon 
> developement very closely anymore, does anyone know what the 
> status of LogKit is in Avalon itself (did they deprecate it?).
> It is true that Log4j configuration is familiar to most 
> people and LogKit's just isn't. But that argument just 
> applies to new users of Cocoon. The ones that have been using 
> Cocoon are familiar with LogKit and may not be with Log4j. 
> Not that it is very difficult to learn to configure either of 
> them anyway ;-)
Yes, that's true. My initial post was a little bit unclear :)
The basic idea is to use log4j as default and provide perhaps
a little bit more support for configuration of log4j - whatever
that require. Of course you still will be able to use logkit
if you want (so "deprecating" was a wrong term, sorry).

For the status of logkit, well, currently it's called "legacy" at
Avalon (please correct me, if I'm telling something wrong here).
As far as I remember, the idea is to not continue the development
of Logkit anymore. But I think this is not a problem as Logkit
is working well and is "finished". There is no real need for 
further development.


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