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From "Antonio Gallardo" <>
Subject Re: [RT] Tapestry or the value of multi-channel forms?
Date Thu, 13 May 2004 16:41:29 GMT
Sylvain Wallez dijo:
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>> I'm sitting in a JAX (conferenc about Java, XML, Apache and
>> Webservices) session about Tapestry and I'm rather impressed. Does
>> anybody have experiences with it?
>> Tapestry really makes it easy to design web applications with e.g.
>> Dreamweaver and the person who is responsible for this job doesn't
>> need to have a clue about what happens in the background. Of course
>> multi-channel publishing gets lost but: Do multi-channel forms really
>> make sense? Or are they an academic solution because IRL you are
>> forced to rewrite each form because of different screen sizes?
> I just have a doc-reading experience of Tapestry, and we (Anyware) have
> been using this kind of "augmented HTML" for years, compiling it to XSL
> stylesheets.
> Although this works well for simple mappings, I don't know how this can
> handle conditional layouts (e.g. different HTML when a repeater is empty
> or not) without requiring a minimal knowledge of some templating language.
> But this is something we may work on: I once prototyped a few dozen
> lines of XSL to transform a regular HTML page with <form> and <input>
> tags into their <ft:*> counterparts. You can then use dreamweaver to
> edit your forms.
> But Cocoon adds more value to this: from my own experience (related to
> the people's skills in my company), most pages in a webapp are designed
> by people that know the application domain and are therefore more often
> developpers than web designers. In this organisation, the work of the
> web designer is to produce a "skin" that gives some styling for all
> graphical layouts used throughout the application. That skin is then
> translated to XSLT (+CSS). The page developper then only has to write
> very basic HTML (page structure) that is fed into the skinning XSLT to
> add all the fancy graphical layout.
> Result: productivity boost and ability to have multiple skins (and to
> some extent multiple channels). It's called "SoC" I guess... ;-)

Yep. We do the same. The Designer just need to make a 1 page template.
They have big time to play and surf whenever they want. ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

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