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From Steven Noels <>
Subject Re: Enough object store crap, let's get serious
Date Mon, 24 May 2004 19:53:44 GMT
On 24 May 2004, at 20:07, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Who's with me?

The Sleepycat license contains:

The following is the license that applies to this copy of the Berkeley
DB Java Edition software.  For a license to use the Berkeley DB Java
Edition software under conditions other than those described here, or
to purchase support for this software, please contact Sleepycat Software
by email at, or on the Web at


  * 3. Redistributions in any form must be accompanied by information on
  *    how to obtain complete source code for the DB software and any
  *    accompanying software that uses the DB software.  The source code
  *    must either be included in the distribution or be available for no
  *    more than the cost of distribution plus a nominal fee, and must be
  *    freely redistributable under reasonable conditions.  For an
  *    executable file, complete source code means the source code for 
  *    modules it contains.  It does not include source code for modules 
  *    files that typically accompany the major components of the 
  *    system on which the executable file runs.

... which is the same kind of commercial runtime penalty MySQL carries.

Which means, IIUC, we could distribute stuff legally, but nobody would 
be able to shrink-wrap and close-source Cocoon without paying Sleepycat 
a fee. That is not what our license has been indicating throughout the 
years, and I honestly don't understand how all the other Sleepycat 
users (like Subversion) cope with this.

Steven Noels                  
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