Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 46916 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 19:58:58 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 19:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 7646 invoked by uid 500); 19 Apr 2004 19:58:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 7618 invoked by uid 500); 19 Apr 2004 19:58:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 7602 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 19:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MAIL.myadguys.com) (209.10.249.135) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 19:58:43 -0000 Received: by mail.myadguys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:58:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tim Olson To: "'dev@cocoon.apache.org'" Subject: RE: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts (was Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:58:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > we already have a nice system of flow helper methods to > access entity beans > > and pump them into XML. we use flow to select which > components are needed > > when, and the contract with our GUI designers is XML. we > were already burnt > > quite badly when sendPage() became a requirement, since we > were using flow > > to merely select actions and the sitemap had all of our > branching. we are > > now unable to upgrade past 2.1.2 without major refactoring > which honestly we > > can't afford to do. > > you theoreticians seem all too willing to break production > systems to > > enforce your latest notion of best practices. > > Tim, don't take the word for everything said in a RT thread and don't > worry that access to Java will be disabled in the 2.x branch > (if ever) > as this certainly would break any production system running > on with flow. sorry to be so sensitive. i still have a bad taste from the exception being thrown if no sendPage() is present.