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From "Carsten Ziegeler" <>
Subject RE: [POLL] author tags and credits
Date Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:33:41 GMT
+1 for the plan, with two additions:

> c) mention CREDITS.TXT in every source file
I think we don't need this, let's just remove the author tags and give
credit as you outline. 

> e) do not lose existing credit
This is an important issue. I think we should first collect the author
infos, update status and credits.txt accordingly and only if that issue
is resolved, remove the author tags. Otherwise we all know what will
happen, we create the list, remove the author tags and nothing else
happens :(


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [] 
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:43 AM
> To:
> Subject: [POLL] author tags and credits
> Hi all,
> We've just had a lively discussion on #cocoon about this: 
> basically the ASF is *recommending* (no obligation) that 
> @author tags in our files be removed.
> See also
> Basically the outcome of our discussion is that we agree on 
> removing @author tags, but we still want to give due credit 
> to contributors, and not lose the existing credit information.
> Here are our suggestions, please comment!
> a) stop using @author tags
> Besides the ASF's legal reasons for doing this, they're often 
> out of sync after some time, and do not reflect the 
> "importance" of someone's contribution.
> At the extreme, someone could add their name as @author when 
> they do "housekeeping changes" on files, like when updating 
> licenses. This means the value of @author tags is usually low 
> (but read on).
> b) give due credit
> We all agree that due credit must be given, be it for small 
> patches, small modules or big earth-shaking ideas.
> Here's the plan:
> Committers indicate in the CVS log messages when committing 
> code created by someone else
> Credit for small things/patches won't go into individual 
> files anymore, but in the existing status.xml file (using 
> @due-to attributes in status.xml).
> Credit for "big earth-shaking ideas" or "important work" goes 
> into the existing CREDITS.TXT file, subject to a vote to keep 
> this infomeaningful. Things like the Cocoon core, sitemap 
> processor, Flow, Forms go there, with a short history of how 
> they came to be.
> c) mention CREDITS.TXT in every source file Do we want to add 
> a "author information has moved to CREDITS.TXT and 
> status.xml" notice to each file where we remove @author tags?
> d) "levels" of credit
> Small contributions and patches are mentioned in status.xml, 
> in addition to traces in the mailing lists and CVS logs.
> Major contributions are mentioned in credits.txt, subject to 
> a commiters vote
> e) do not lose existing credit
> Before removing @author tags, generate a map of @author names 
> to filenames and keep it in CVS for some time.
> This allows information that might be missing from the 
> existing status.xml to be added, respecting the contributions 
> which might have been done without corresponding entries in status.xml
> -Bertrand, reporting for FirstFriday #cocoon folks

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