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From "roy huang" <lingererhu...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Web based GUI development environment for Cocoon
Date Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:35:52 GMT
Agree!I believe this GUI as an application or an application core is better.It means developers
using cocoon can use this core to build their application,like administration panel for form
design or management.

Roy Huang
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gounis@osmosis.gr>
To: <dev@cocoon.apache.org>
Cc: "Jens Maukisch" <cocoon@maukisch.net>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Web based GUI development environment for Cocoon


> 
> hi people
> i'm not a developer in cocoon community but i want to say somenthing about 
> this thread. A GUI will be a great step forward in cocoon proj. many 
> people that use cocoon use allready an IDE. so why this GUI will be an 
> stand alone WEB-based or not application and not just a part of an 
> existing IDE. A netbeans module for example?
> 
> 
> --stavros
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Leszek Gawron wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 11:25:33AM +0200, Jens Maukisch wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > I propose we create a web based GUI development environment for Cocoon
> > > > build using Cocoon technology, such as CForms, flow, portals, etc.
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > WDYT?
> > > 
> > > Hmm, a webapplication for developing webapplications seems a little
> > > bit strange for me :-)
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't it be better to have a 'real' ide (e.g. based on eclipse).
> > > Maybe the upcoming Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (with some
> > > nice contributions form IBM:
> > > http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~dar/wdt/ibm.html) and other available tools
> > > are a good point to start/extend.
> > There is a tool that uses both (commercial). It's called W4Toolkit. Strange
> > really :))
> > 
> > I am also in favour of eclipse as one would have one place to 
> > - code in Java
> > - edit XML files
> > - edit sitemap (sunBow)
> > - build up forms (cocoon GUI)
> > 
> > using a non-web IDE would make the implementation much simpler I think as
> > after the application reaches some point of complexity it is a nightmare to
> > provide a good and flexible GUI.
> > 
> > Remember that developers usually do not use the mouse so often - keyboard is
> > much faster if you know the shortcuts. The standard application can also make
> > use of other features like drag'n'drop or executing external applications.
> > 
> > lg
> > 
> 
> 
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