Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 5798 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2004 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Mar 2004 17:26:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 38807 invoked by uid 500); 29 Mar 2004 17:26:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38782 invoked by uid 500); 29 Mar 2004 17:26:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 38767 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2004 17:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO l3dns1.vnu.co.uk) (62.140.213.135) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Mar 2004 17:26:21 -0000 Received: from [10.11.155.41] (155-41.static.int.vnu.co.uk [10.11.155.41]) by l3dns1.vnu.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5D29C12 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:26:12 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <07258F4244D6F649B1A78993D070B7CA799465@ACSPMXE02> References: <07258F4244D6F649B1A78993D070B7CA799465@ACSPMXE02> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-13--805245270; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <2B43E5EA-81A6-11D8-8AB2-000393C27E0C@betaversion.org> From: Pier Fumagalli Subject: Re: [RT] On building on stone Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:26:09 +0100 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-13--805245270 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 29 Mar 2004, at 17:20, Hamilton Verissimo de Oliveira (Engenharia - SPO) wrote: > De: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org] > >> Yes, totally. And we already have it working and solved with this new >> container. Why would we trash it to move to JMX? what would that buy >> us? > > Would you put an instrumentation layer on it? If yes, then consider > JMX. I believe that we all agreed that the core should be instrumentable by JMX. I believe there's some confusion here between "instrumenting" the Cocoon kernel with JMX and using JMX _as_ the core kernel of Cocoon. I still believe that for Cocoon the first solution is the optimal one, using a Cocoon-tailored kernel, instrumentable with JMX... 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