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From Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert <>
Subject Re: Instrumentation, anyone?
Date Fri, 05 Mar 2004 05:50:01 GMT
XDoclet is a good generator, but the license is wrong for Apache.
Using straight Introspection can and will expose things that you do not 
wish to allow users to alter on the fly.

Unfortunately I'm completely snowed under until March 29th.  After that 
date I will get back to working on JMX for cocoon.  I suggested using 
the MX4J libraries as they are under an Apache license already, but 
haven't heard any thoughts here.

We used some of the AdventNet products and they all seemed to work very 
well.  I only used their SNMP libraries, so I can't comment on their 
other tools.  I used XDoclet to generate MBeans instead.

We could use XML Descriptors that could be used to create dynamic 
MBeans.  As for generation, we could generate MBeans directly, or XML 
descriptors from comments in the code (a'la XDoclet), the downside to 
this requires having access to (and modifying) the source code.

Carsten, if your offering to answer questions on Avalon, that would be 
way cool.

Let me know which way you think will fit in the best way for cocoon'ers 
and I can start on that in April.

Thor HW

On 4-Mar-04, at 1:42 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Joerg Heinicke wrote:
>> We also had no problems with it. As Hamilton said you just must not 
>> commit generated code, but I think that's obvious. Do you have 
>> something else in mind? What does "distributed workgroup" change on 
>> the issue?
> that there is more chance of people making mistakes ;-)
> we *did* have problems with this in the past and we moved away from it.
> not that I'm stopping people, just making sure they know there is a 
> problem there.
> -- 
> Stefano.

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