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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: [RT] On building on stone
Date Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:45:44 GMT
Le 23 mars 04, à 14:25, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit :

<snip-good-stuff cause="mucho agreement"/>

> ...So, here is my detailed proposal:
>  1) implement our own framework and container in order to implement 
> cocoon blocks [this creates the solid foundation that we control]
>  2) create an avalon emulation layer for the legacy components that 
> would allow avalon components to run unmodified [this allows users to 
> have a smooth migration path and no immediate impact on their 
> development/mainteinance costs]

Both sound very good assuming someone is able and willing to do the 
work. But I understand you and Pier would have (or already have had) 
energy to contribute.

I think the "in order to implement cocoon blocks" bit is key: although 
Avalon is obviously shaky at the moment, the current ECM stuff used 
here is very stable and took a lot of work to polish. There must be a 
very good reason to replace it, and if it's Real Blocks combined with 
pouring concrete where needed, great!

> ... 4) keep the framework and container *MINIMAL* to our own needs. 
> [we WILL NOT redistribute the framework independently]..

Sure. But if the next Cocoon Core is sufficiently small (and 
*perceived* as such) and powerful, people might want to use it "just" 
as a container, even for simple things...

> ...Fire at will: I have my abstesto underwear on.

No need for it as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for your realistic and 
respectful point of view.


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