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From Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert <>
Subject Re: [RT] On building on stone
Date Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:07:04 GMT
It could be we're talking about much the same things.
JMX provides instrumentation capabilities, and standard services, one 
of the standard services is the loading/un-load of archives using the 
MLet service.

There is a strong rumour you've already finished the kernel Pier ... if 
so share I'm dying to see it.

If not, then please have a look at the MLet capabilities for loading 
and unloading.  I think loading and MD5Url using the MLet loader would 
be a good thing and since it is already built for us in MX4J as a 
standard service ... why recreate it unless you find problems with the 
concept as defined by JMX.  JMX is a bit more than just an SNMP agent 
of sorts.

Thor HW

On 29-Mar-04, at 9:26 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:

> On 29 Mar 2004, at 17:20, Hamilton Verissimo de Oliveira (Engenharia - 
> SPO) wrote:
>> De: Stefano Mazzocchi []
>>> Yes, totally. And we already have it working and solved with this new
>>> container. Why would we trash it to move to JMX? what would that buy 
>>> us?
>> Would you put an instrumentation layer on it? If yes, then consider 
>> JMX.
> I believe that we all agreed that the core should be instrumentable by 
> JMX. I believe there's some confusion here between "instrumenting" the 
> Cocoon kernel with JMX and using JMX _as_ the core kernel of Cocoon.
> I still believe that for Cocoon the first solution is the optimal one, 
> using a Cocoon-tailored kernel, instrumentable with JMX...
> 	Pier

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