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From Marc Portier <>
Subject Re: [cforms] Repeater Binding Revisited.
Date Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:15:57 GMT

Hunsberger, Peter wrote:

> We're not using woody/cforms since we have a proprietary forms system
> we've built over the years.  However, I do have an observation from our
> system:  we've learned over the years that in the middle layer we really
> don't want to distinguish between single valued things and multi-valued
> things.  Single value things are just a special case of multi-valued
> things.  
> What we are building is instead a way to distinguish between the "type"
> of thing and its presentation behavior.  Types of things are essentially
> Java classes or SQL types, Strings, Integers, Decimals, Dates, Cblobs.
> etc.  
> Presentation behaviors are sort of like Woody widgets: currently our
> list includes: normal, hidden, single-value list, multi-select list,
> searchers, read-only and a couple of others I won't go into (compound
> object behaviors).  We really need to normalize behaviors a little more,
> so that hidden and read-only can be yet a third dimension, but I think
> you can see where this is going:  basically, anything can be presented
> any way and you don't have to modify the middle layer to change the
> presentation (and yes, if a thing has multiple values presented as
> "normal", you get multiple "text" input fields).
> Don't know if any of this is of any use in the cforms design, but we had
> to learn this the hard way...

thx for this, really appreciate it
have to let it sip in a bit...

Marc Portier                  
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
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