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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject RE: [RT] On building on stone
Date Mon, 29 Mar 2004 02:11:40 GMT
I'm curious why you think OpenMBeans are awkward and unmanageable.  Seems
pretty easy to me. What am I missing?


-----Original Message-----
From: Gianugo Rabellino [] 
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] On building on stone

Well, of course I have no interest in a "my experience is longer than 
yours" discussion. :-) I'm not saying that JMX can't be part of an IT 
management environment, it's quite the opposite actually. What I'm 
contesting is that every configuration and basic application behaviour 
should be managed via JMX since this would mean forcing your application 
to adhere to the JMX model which is, AFAIU, somehow limited 
architecturally: it seems to me that it's easy to do simple task (set 
and get properties, send notifications) but it becomes horribly (and 
uselessly) complicated when it comes to complex stuff. There are things 
that are better done with plain old configuration systems, which can 
express much more: starting to use model/open MBeans seems to me ankward 
as hell and, most of all, unmanageable (go figure!) from the application 
development point of view: my impression is that there is a high chance 
of inserting bugs when using JMX the way it wasn't conceived for.

Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -
Orixo, the XML business alliance -
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