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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [RT] On building on stone
Date Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:14:49 GMT
Since you guys are talking about JMX based stuff. Please take a look at the GBean/Kernel stuff
in
Geronimo. It's very rich, comprehensice and based on JMX.

-- dims

--- Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert <thor@lunartek.com> wrote:
> It could be we're talking about much the same things.
> JMX provides instrumentation capabilities, and standard services, one 
> of the standard services is the loading/un-load of archives using the 
> MLet service.
> 
> There is a strong rumour you've already finished the kernel Pier ... if 
> so share I'm dying to see it.
> 
> If not, then please have a look at the MLet capabilities for loading 
> and unloading.  I think loading and MD5Url using the MLet loader would 
> be a good thing and since it is already built for us in MX4J as a 
> standard service ... why recreate it unless you find problems with the 
> concept as defined by JMX.  JMX is a bit more than just an SNMP agent 
> of sorts.
> 
> Cheers,
> Thor HW
> 
> 
> On 29-Mar-04, at 9:26 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> 
> > On 29 Mar 2004, at 17:20, Hamilton Verissimo de Oliveira (Engenharia - 
> > SPO) wrote:
> >> De: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org]
> >>
> >>> Yes, totally. And we already have it working and solved with this new
> >>> container. Why would we trash it to move to JMX? what would that buy 
> >>> us?
> >>
> >> Would you put an instrumentation layer on it? If yes, then consider 
> >> JMX.
> >
> > I believe that we all agreed that the core should be instrumentable by 
> > JMX. I believe there's some confusion here between "instrumenting" the 
> > Cocoon kernel with JMX and using JMX _as_ the core kernel of Cocoon.
> >
> > I still believe that for Cocoon the first solution is the optimal one, 
> > using a Cocoon-tailored kernel, instrumentable with JMX...
> >
> > 	Pier
> 


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Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

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