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From "Hunsberger, Peter" <>
Subject RE: Experience with workflow at Hippo Webworks
Date Mon, 08 Mar 2004 19:19:55 GMT
Guido Casper <> writes:
> Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
> > For the end user I believe you always have to have modeling 
> tools for 
> > building work flow, the internal implementation should be 
> completely 
> > transparent; the first time I wrote GUI modeling tools for 
> work flow 
> > was 13 years ago (as a subcontractor for one of the major work flow 
> > vendors) I don't believe the end user expectations have 
> declined since 
> > then!
> I'm slowly starting to see an unsolvable conflict :-)
> Some are looking for a tool for developers and some are looking for a 
> tool for users. And I guess we'll be having a hard time 
> finding a single 
> tool being both.

I probably should have written "For the end user I believe you always
have to have the option of having modeling tools for building work
flow...".  However, even as written originally I don't see a conflict? I
think it's not unreasonable to assume that the modeling tools will be
independent of Cocoon. 

What is needed is a way to take the models, where ever they may
originate, and implement them in Cocoon.  I think the only way that's
going to be generally possible is if Cocoon has some form of template
based model (even if it is internally used to generate a script based
implementation via some XSLT).

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